Patrick Courrielche Interview

" On the line I have a very. Special guest. At a place that otherwise we would not know that the national endowment of the arts. I has not just been politicized. And the average. Artist in this country as that would even be prone towards being involved with this NEA. Is very liberal but somethin' -- Littleton are nefarious is going on here. And it's got the telltale signs of community organizing all over it we've got on the line here Patrick Corel tree. He's a filmmaker a marketer and an -- community consultant based in Los Angeles. And he came to my attention when I read a piece of his in reason mag in the magazine's online and blog site. And what she talked about the role of the artist in in society as a basically I can tell Patrick -- kinda getting creeped out of the union. Uniform. Pro government pro Obama. You know. But he wave at the art community was you know beam and and you -- 88 piece that just said hey look you know I'm not I'm not saying that it's wrong Thabeet. An Obama supporter but this uniformity. -- is it was creeping you out."

" Yes definitely edit it was big it was that not only creeping me out there also was so little bit fearful that. You know the one got it comes out and says I think what the joker poster. You know he -- pretty heavily criticized. Him he would immediately as in mainstream media is covering up. And so my fear was is that you know which that kind of very systems coming at him and that kind of that criticism was going to can hit -- others to come out."

" that that's the that's the tactic is to call pick up personal racist state and even know who we was they didn't know whether he was black or not yet -- that they called Hemmer racist and that's. That's sending a message. It doesn't matter if we've gathered evidence your racist meaning. The worst thing you can call person in this country obviously not murder because. Did Teddy Kennedy was just given quite the -- I had the worst thing you can call person in this -- to call personal racist and it's so un American to call personal racist because you have state its its. You're you're. You have to dis -- your guilt yet that's the fun and and that's what they now. That by sending that message to millions of people were seen things in a way that's -- them out. They recognize it's going to take zero evidence for the other side. Which includes the media jumping on and piling on they're gonna call your racist. And you're gonna have to have a sergeant Crowley airtight case. That proves that you taught. A racial profiling classic your local police academy in order to extricate yourself from being called that so it's it's an intimidation."

" Tactics and intimidation tactic that until now I think has been working pretty well -- do you think the tide is turning on that day. I think that that word now is losing need to venom that you -- have. And you can bet that -- and -- associated going to be cases where it is actually true. And you will need proof now it's right it's just one of those kind of things where. I feel like someone need to say something that it which led me to use the international -- article because that's so once day. Put it out there artists and told and that could stand."

" Stand up and -- campaign."

" If they get opposed the administration."

" I felt like need to -- attempted to speak out about the mediate in the dairy and -- ten hottest thing happening."

" Hey I'm happy and group of -- hand -- group of artists. I had a conference call. Throughout the cops got there are stating basically if they were. You know -- part of the main yearbook part key reason why Obama got elected office and do you hope poster -- body art that happened. During the campaign as his prime examples of what this group had to do. Are what this group that that there role that they played -- into an elected. So. Yeah they act like I I had this speak out because of that peace and so I wrote something on big Hollywood. You know at a pretty overwhelming response to."

" To the position that ticket which was basically the NEA has no role. And."

" Telling artist to speak to issues expect we will not health care at a time it'd been vehemently debated nationally."

" It should not happen it's not what the -- was created for it's not quietly brought into existence it's called the National Endowment for the Arts. Not to use the arts. And I EB seated at -- thing happening if you -- just."

" You know organizing and and and very unique sense -- government infrastructure and the mechanisms of government says. Tate played to get a message out there and think and and to have created an environment -- amenable to attend various policies and it's just not ruled that the national endowment for the should pick."

" Well you you went into that conference call. And you reported a big Hollywood about what you heard a Mac conference call -- minute that made you fearful because you were recognizing and that the NEA was actively pursuing propagandist. Too. Push the Obama health care reform movement and and once you did that. A few news organizations picked it up. For the obvious reasons today you're gonna beyond that Glenn -- television show on fox news to talk more about this. But as I've talked about in there and then in the last segment about Brandon Darby a guy who came from the last. Who who acted as a whistle blower against a bomb threat on the Republican National Convention. You're acting very much in the same whistle blower capacity. You're not a typical -- are you long associated yourself on the left you just started to. -- started to recognize that these tactics were being done. And they're just not. They're not on the up -- up so when you wrote this piece. And big Hollywood how did the person. At the NEA the head of the Annie is that the head of the Ning Yang."

" Noted it. Director communication right at the director of communications. Who you basically touted for creating this politicized conference call. To dictate everybody to start creating pro Obama health care art. Through the ages of the -- any day. How did he react to your reporting. On that conference call the -- and the nature of that conference call."

" Well you know it's. Did -- its its progress stood in The Washington Times contacted him and he basically says that he didn't set that the DEA didn't have anything to do with setting up the invites. He says he has directed the Russian time's person to the Corporation for National and Community Service -- the people that -- it."

" In short -- it. I got it right directly I am so and you put that you have just this this story comes into parts right now the second part is. -- they didn't want to demonize you -- call you a liar. They just denied what you're saying and thought that well ABC's not gonna take it up NBC in the New York Times are gonna pick it up and let's just hope that. -- and that that it just goes away but what did you do yesterday. And M head and tell us about about why you're going on Glenn -- today and what type of evidence you've put out there."

" Well I've put the man yeah I Indians -- yesterday actually showed the -- and it directly from the National Endowment for the Arts they -- got another invite which basically."

" Told you to join the White House. And the National Endowment for the Arts. "

" So. Yet today yes and Glenn Beck show we're going to be revealing a little bit more. I think definitively shows that they had a -- a major role originating in initiating immediate. Money that -- it did there obviously trying to distance themselves. From."

" Being there and negotiators could mean what does that say that's says that they felt like Dirk did something questionable about being. -- my argument is is that just being involved with the meetings such as this and inviting."

" A group the potentially -- me that's what the national governments idiots don't they give glance. Start projects just you have people that you potentially but on the phone. And -- and the group that helps you. You don't get that Obama elected. You'd kind of dispute health care what kind of duty to get everything out there that are urged to -- and I'm -- that -- And he'd like it's it's just it's stated pretty early on that a conference call. That's. The be ordered the -- change TV mediator the conference call ten straight up that he was. Asked by the national endowment for the arts and the White House to put this group together. So I don't think that it could be ignored any longer. Ignore explain the way -- ambiguous we answered."

" Maybe it's pretty."

" Hey that's pretty blatant and I think that they need to have some explaining to do you know I can't get really really big -- need to come out and say okay at this -- in the -- We're into an uninitiated why. Let me speak to that because that's not what the National Endowment for the Arts was created to do."

" Racist. In -- way it's gonna be guy I met you yesterday I -- UN and dad justice it's easy -- somebody like me in and and what archetype by fit and when I -- said while we finally have one of those guys. I coming to our side you look like your typical. Artsy cool look and cat in now and and and you've you you have the pedigree. And you even have the relationship file with with with Shepard fairy who created the hope. That the hope poster in what you're doing there's almost no benefit. By showing common cause with the political right in this come country. -- with an art community did lean so heavily to the left and behaves punitive -- towards those those who have right wing thing so. As a whistle blower as a war you're putting yourself in harm's way wide -- your motivation to put yourself. Out there like this knowing that there's a possibility that tomorrow you may wake up being called a racist by out -- manuals minions."

" Well I I have a two year old daughter and."

" I thank you need to for example there and I need to."

" And -- kind of father that that's you know she. We'll look up to and that ultimately. I think history will today that. You know what they did in nineteen DR -- and -- it might be able at a certain aspects of certain factions that it."

" Might be upset with me further sustain such a thing about anyone think no one cannot say anything yet none of that group has about technique thing. Because they know it's setting up the machine like this is not what we should be dealing with the government agency. I mean history injury riddled."

" How bad that my -- How bad the -- can -- be coming to get -- to speak with the government to -- turnout. And so I think ultimately history will will. Did indicate you know coming out like this guy really does see -- it was so bargaining and as -- point -- time it."

" This country where I think if you spoke out on something like this you were considered. Now patriotic you know and -- yeah do you think that that."

" Get Steve to do would -- back and think about this and they get. If the opposition to that their positions to get a hold of something like this how would they feel about it in the bush -- something like this."

" There would be no question that this could be on every report I've radio and and television station that there is out there --"

" There was a conference call that the NEA was being used to create war propaganda. There what is Ben. It impeachment hearings 100%. Dud John Conyers would have done everything he could. And there's no doubt the double standard is so great that the word double standard doesn't even it even fit this -- this debate. We're gonna bring you back Patrick because there's more to this story. I and it and I want to tie you into. You know that the David Mamet -- was a perfect example of what you're doing this is a guy who could not have greater credibility within the last. And he moved. Over to the right and he's been able to survive and I think that the message to anyone that's out there -- That thinks that the year they're not gonna have protection if they come out and speak against this stuff. Because maybe they've exist in the middle ground or wore a little bit left in the starting to get creeped out by this encroaching. Community organizing that's going into federal government with your tax Payer money and it's starting to look like a lot of countries that. Who whose fates didn't work out so well. I you know. -- now is the time to comment because it if if if we don't stand up for it. What Patrick is standing up for right now we may not have those first amendment rights. You know I eat it come the next two. Or three election cycles this is in your bright part you're listening to the Dennis Miller show yeah."